COmmons community working to develop the buildingblocks for these issues
Starting points – OpenID architecturee
holy grail
web-wise dist. single signon
coming together of competeing efforts to collab and cooperate
important
too much of the wbe in walled gardend
cutting edge of what it means to have identity
multiple social contexts
far from solving the problem
Trust is the heart of what we are talking about
how and why we trust
because you say we are
when do we do this in real life – only do it when dealing with entities like bank, govt, passport control
truct comes from past interactions and current context
can be our own experience
based on past experience and referential transactions (jane says susie was good person)
trust is not an algorithm
trust is not a rating
trust is a knowing set of instincts we have evolved – and intuition to survive and thrive in social groups
we have our own way of balancing our needs for trust
communities have their own ways
we make decisions on trusst based on range of info
how is not obvious
enough helpful tools and practices
need to be much deeper than ratings – deeper human drivers than processes
solutions to these problems must be user centric
rooted in community context
what do we do today and where do we start
start supporting openID
let people bring identities to you
before we get answers we need better questions
whats happening at identity commons and the conversations starting to emerge
questions on the edge about how group ID should be supported in a living way
web2.0 provides a set of engines that make wikipedia possible, live search, etc
big conv. – what new engines can web2. provide for support and improvement of id and trust in the social fabric
what can we do to make that happen
Q – ID stuff is back to centralized model – shouldnt we look at it diff – all the places in the real and virt world – cant we have alogrithm and look in the real world – actually has real ID based on e
concept of trust associated with the picture
our ID is shaped by all the things we do on the web – part of the challenge has been that until recently we didng have a way to take ID between diff websites
diff social contexts with diff cultures
sheet has detailed history of open ID
every AOL screenname has one
relatively large platforms supporting it
DIgg NetVibes, 6Apart
How can you say its here – hopelessly innocent
ID portable and moveable
ID is is URL and all of your relationships – portable ID in which your content, comments, feeds and social network that you own and take with you
anyone can write a client to consume xml file
ID as component of differentiation
always a danger with standardization
All these things are now more than big ideas
identity layer is being built now
in real terms speaking about coding and developing the nextgen tools
Identity commons – links on the wiki
internet identity workshop – 1 month in mountainview
big topic of conversation