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		<title>Podcast Hotel &#8211; Diversifying Ecosystem of Online Video &#8211; Liveblogging</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mary Hodder &#8211; Moderator Kaliya &#8211; Irina Slutsky Nicole Simon Josh Think about whats out there in the ecosystem &#8211; what holes exist the oriental and the occidental The default and the other oriental &#8211; term to desc the whole section of the world, where you could get killed, where we dont understand it Map [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Hodder &#8211; Moderator<br />
Kaliya &#8211;<br />
Irina Slutsky<br />
Nicole Simon<br />
Josh</p>
<p>Think about whats out there in the ecosystem &#8211; what holes exist<br />
the oriental and the occidental<br />
The default and the other</p>
<p>oriental &#8211; term to desc the whole section of the world, where you could get killed, where we dont understand it</p>
<p>Map from 1620 from Morocco</p>
<p>map lays out  &#8211; east and west<br />
way everyone thinks about it<br />
take ourselves out of normal situation<br />
only ever live in the default<br />
totally lose in lots of ways</p>
<p>1/2 of dabble engineers women<br />
1/ of dabble from outside of US<br />
have more of the other into what they are trying to make<br />
the non-default<br />
adds to what they are doing</p>
<p>decided to frame discussion into the default and the other</p>
<p>discuss the culture, the holes, the tools, cultural norms (online) and probs with current toolsets that expose or don&#8217;t expose<br />
awareness can fix alot</p>
<p>List of holes<br />
alexa &#8211; way alexa can reveal certain things<br />
technorati link sys and link counting<br />
Neilsen ratings<br />
time difference (outside of the valley is the other place)<br />
language and location<br />
how do we get out of pure system that values metrics and measurements and embody qualitative values<br />
tools for serendipity &#8211; discover things you never knew about</p>
<p>feel like you are in the other</p>
<p>Nicole<br />
blogger, podcaster<br />
from Germany<br />
discuss feeling in the other later</p>
<p>Irina Slutsky<br />
classically trained journalist<br />
geekentertainmenttv<br />
studied issues about the other in Columbia Journalism</p>
<p>Kaliya &#8211; Identity Woman<br />
has res alien card in her wallet<br />
lives in and is part of this culture but it is not her culture<br />
fortunate to work in the niche of the industry that is welcoming &#8211; Digital Identity<br />
discuss culture and what we can do to inc. inclusivity</p>
<p>Josh Paul &#8211; CEO of co that does video on the net<br />
tech perspective<br />
released some software<br />
blogged about<br />
deaf community blogged about it &#8211;<br />
he reached out &#8211; how do we use this tech in another way<br />
no reason why he can&#8217;t place products in video (why not someone doing ASL in the video!)<br />
people open to those ideas<br />
as a creator, putting something out there and letting the market decide</p>
<p>Nicole<br />
being more open helps<br />
does podtech have any contests?<br />
Irina &#8211; yes<br />
Nicole &#8211; GMT time is what she knows &#8211; time difference</p>
<p>Mary &#8211; Dabble<br />
appaled when she had contest and lawyers said it could only be US residents<br />
because of the ways the laws work &#8211; there are a lot of built in ways we make definitions &#8211; some legal, some social &#8211; cant change the ways the laws work for the contest<br />
can build the architectures to make them more open (location diff or time diff) &#8211; openness and opportunity<br />
cant give things to people<br />
not men vs women &#8211; open vs closed<br />
too easy for us to not think about it</p>
<p>create inclusivity for users</p>
<p>Kaliya<br />
f2f events and how to make them more inclusive<br />
we have dinner together in the evening<br />
people sit with people they wouldnt otherwise sit with<br />
forced cross pollination<br />
diff that the reception at a conference<br />
mingle &#8211; what do you know<br />
one practical thing<br />
creating space and social contact for new people to get connected</p>
<p>Mary<br />
made the list of holes<br />
things that they observe or missing or closed off<br />
every one had the reaction of wow<br />
down the list</p>
<p>Nicole<br />
the alien<br />
top ranking traffic tools announced as the measurement<br />
only counts visits from the toolbar and primarily US users<br />
american company and competitor &#8211; alexa caters to US-centric audience<br />
very specific comparison<br />
alexa numbers &#8211; german blog has 1/10 the visitors<br />
totally opposite<br />
a lot of people put value on the ranking whenit is bogus</p>
<p>Mary<br />
Alexa &#8211; matters to her in context<br />
Alexa wants to be ubiquitous<br />
alexa &#8211; super important to vc&#8217;s<br />
as a company &#8211; building tools and pushed to using this one tool &#8211; you are then in a position to put a lot of emphasis on it &#8211; treat it as the worldview &#8211; narrow set of measurements that only matters in a certain context</p>
<p>nicole<br />
google analytics &#8211; good impression of wheere users are coming from<br />
surprised the # of intl users on the sites and podcasts<br />
never saw before</p>
<p>irina<br />
Neilsen changing the way they are measuring<br />
from # of hits to time on the website<br />
leaving out viewership for tv ratings (students, ethnic groups, single moms who work)<br />
big shift of trying to be inclusive in the statistics<br />
good they were more aware and not there yet<br />
haven&#8217;t figured out the right thing</p>
<p>Mary<br />
technoratio<br />
use it to find or link or ID<br />
she worked at technorati early on<br />
use the term authority to desc. their concept of counting links<br />
lots of links = lots of authority<br />
diff ways of linking &#8211; some groups &#8211; early adopter<br />
doesnt reflect the conversational middle<br />
blog her &#8211; 2.5 yrs ago<br />
all these women who were furious because they felt it was oppressive<br />
b/c there was a choice iin the tool about emphasis &#8211; and called authority &#8211; so angry</p>
<p>Irina<br />
how companies can be more inclusive and be more comfortable to use the service</p>
<p>Mary<br />
mommy-bloggers<br />
make money<br />
only way they can judge and get technorati link count &#8211; and it is low because they dont get links but give tons of value</p>
<p>Kaliya<br />
default culture not where everyone else is from<br />
we make assumptions on what is obvious to us &#8211; anatomy of a blog<br />
need to practice &#8220;who do we want to make sure gets this&#8221;<br />
new audiences, new people &#8211; whatever we are passionate about<br />
ignoring the fact we have cult. defaults we arent aware of<br />
lot to be said for hieroglyphs</p>
<p>Josh<br />
Ze Frank &#8211; use of life vests<br />
from 2 pages to a couple of pictures<br />
user interface<br />
telephone<br />
AT&#038;T used to travel with film reel how to dial a phone<br />
is it a matter of putting out video tutorials or finding some image or hieroglyph to communicate<br />
cross lang barriers because of it</p>
<p>Nicole<br />
Rocketboom<br />
great that it is being translated<br />
for getting the jokes when you can read it<br />
not only about companies<br />
only talk about daily life &#8211; boring, not good, not higher purpose<br />
videoblogs help nicole understand culture &#8211; pop, reality, etc.<br />
nothing to think about &#8211; out of context<br />
doesnt need to be companies<br />
be resourceful to someone<br />
what is good what is not good<br />
imp for some to realize &#8211; may seem trivial</p>
<p>Mary<br />
another thing &#8211; translate rocketboom to english with subtitles</p>
<p>Josh &#8211; dotsub implementation is great first step<br />
what comes out the other end?<br />
what happens when we get other languages down</p>
<p>Nicole -<br />
most translations useless &#8220;raining cats and dogs&#8221;<br />
more than just basic translation<br />
steps in the right direction</p>
<p>Google &#8211; buying 411 service &#8211; Nicole needs to understand what 411 means</p>
<p>few things where nicole gets left out &#8211; because of language, context</p>
<p>podcasting iss great resource to be inclusive</p>
<p>Irina<br />
taught to go into a company and see if there is a non-white male person to interview<br />
hard to do in the valley <img src='http://www.seanbohan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>interviewing or doing something &#8211; keep it in mind<br />
imp to do for inlusivity</p>
<p>Questions<br />
problem of authority<br />
who is to decide your video is the one to watch about x<br />
how do you solve the problem<br />
if genuinely skewed &#8211; b/c of sociological difference &#8211; how do we go about it?<br />
want an authority figure</p>
<p>Kaliya<br />
we vest those services with the authority b/c we pay attention to them and give thempower<br />
most people in the blogosphere could care less about the top 100<br />
how do we see those clusters and pay attention to people in those diff niches<br />
what Social Media is about and get away</p>
<p>technorati only watches blogs</p>
<p>Mary &#8211;<br />
when you write an algorithm &#8211; there is a viewpoint &#8211; no technology doesnt have a viewpoint or bias<br />
top 100 the top 100 they know about and have discovered</p>
<p>choice &#8211; their system makes &#8211; livejournal blogs blogroll is on a diff page than main page &#8211; technorati doesnt index that</p>
<p>Aliya &#8211; seek out voices that are new<br />
how are we making allies of the new folks<br />
everyone is being more aware of those things<br />
not just the other in the corner</p>
<p>if we want to be more inclusive = more tools, more time references, translations services, etc.</p>
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		<title>Cool &#8211; PodCorps.org</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just caught a presentation from Doug Kaye (IT Conversations, Conversations Network) at Podcast Hotel about a new program he has announced called PodCorps.org. They are looking to create a community of stringers to capture, organize and share video and audio conversations (town hall meetings, club meetings, small conferences, speeches, interviews, etc.). They are working with: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just caught a presentation from Doug Kaye (IT Conversations, Conversations Network) at Podcast Hotel about a new program he has announced  called PodCorps.org. They are looking to create a community of stringers to capture, organize and share video and audio conversations (town hall meetings, club meetings, small conferences, speeches, interviews, etc.).</p>
<p>They are working with:<br />
http://eventful.com for an events database and give event organizers the option to request stringers to attend and record the event, OurMedia will handle the organization and serving of the content<br />
Internet Archive will handle the hosting</p>
<p>The idea is that stringers sign up for the program and list their location and what they do (audio, video). Event organizers tag their events. PodCorps acts as a dating service putting the two together.</p>
<p>They want to grow their stringer base first.  They want to have the network in place before they can start setting up events with people. Chicken and Egg &#8211; they need stringers to attract events, and events to attract stringers.</p>
<p>here is the url:<br />
podcorps.org</p>
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		<title>Podcast Hotel &#8211; Whats New In Podcasting &#8211; Liveblogging</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug Kaye From the Labs Gigavox Media one of the leaders in the podcasting space DK &#8211; one of the older and oldest podcasters podcaster before there was podcasting IT COnversations in 2003 MP3s and RSS feeds and interviews IT Con is owned by Gigavox Media produced 2000 programs 60 programs a month mult channels [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug Kaye<br />
From the Labs</p>
<p>Gigavox Media<br />
one of the leaders in the podcasting space</p>
<p>DK &#8211; one of the older and oldest podcasters</p>
<p>podcaster before there was podcasting<br />
IT COnversations in 2003</p>
<p>MP3s and RSS feeds and interviews<br />
IT Con is owned by Gigavox Media<br />
produced 2000 programs<br />
60 programs a month<br />
mult channels<br />
podcast academy</p>
<p>Conversations Network<br />
Social Innovation conversations</p>
<p>Very Informal thing<br />
slapped together from other slides</p>
<p>some of the non profit and profit tools they are working on<br />
anything we want to talk about<br />
strong bg in audio<br />
software development, radio</p>
<p>podcast and portable media expo &#8211; late sept &#8211; &#8220;Help, fix my audio&#8221;</p>
<p>showing how to edit, noise reduction, fileteiring editing</p>
<p>Which is Louder?</p>
<p>Interesting problem with videotaping something like this<br />
when you want to record a spoken word event &#8211; put the camin the back of the room, put the cam into the soundboard</p>
<p>panel discussion<br />
you get varying sound levels<br />
mic variances, gain, lots of direct sound in the room<br />
on a podcast it is awful<br />
audio engineer &#8211; ok<br />
by yourself &#8211; problem</p>
<p>Giga &#8211; produce a lot of interview programs<br />
team of 55 people working oin the interviews<br />
dont want to waste their time</p>
<p>Bruce Sharp and son &#8211; developed the levelator<br />
free for all</p>
<p>can you assemble components automatically from components<br />
ID at the top of the show<br />
music<br />
intro<br />
promo<br />
more intro<br />
body<br />
credits<br />
assembled auto from components<br />
trouble hearing most of those cuts</p>
<p>build a show and do it automatically &#8211; do it at the same loudness<br />
what we did </p>
<p>Loudness<br />
  whats the standard<br />
We asked<br />
  podcasters, audio engineers, radio engineers<br />
answer &#8211; there isnt one &#8211; made up there own</p>
<p>Normalization<br />
  Peak Normalization (common &#8211; audacity)<br />
  takes any signal and brings the peaks up to what you want<br />
  needs RMS normalization<br />
  analyzes the density of the waveform<br />
  soundforge and expensive apps built in</p>
<p>Levelator &#8211; put it out for free</p>
<p>people used to think Giga was a content company &#8211; but really a tech company</p>
<p>Levelator &#8211; app, free &#8211; gigavox.com &#8211; runs on windows, mac (intel and power pc and linux) &#8211; take uncompressed sound file, drag and drop &#8211; will smooth out the peaks from one speaker to the next<br />
designed for spoken word events<br />
not compressor, or limiter &#8211; not the noise gate<br />
not in a analog chain</p>
<p>Problem<br />
uneven levels WITHIN a podcast<br />
building mathematical models of speakers to figure out what to do with the audio<br />
Time and skill intensive to solve<br />
auto drag and drop<br />
free to all</p>
<p>Does levelator only work with uncompressed (wav and aiff?)</p>
<p>doesnt work with mp3 files &#8211;<br />
one thing it has to do is make sound no worse that what you give it<br />
mp3 &#8211; decode to uncompresss, run, and reencode<br />
no way you can make it sound as good as the original</p>
<p>if recording as mp3 &#8211; record as highest bitrate possible<br />
sound file will not sound as good if you do that</p>
<p>do no harm</p>
<p>trying to avoid additional decode recode step</p>
<p>dont support bad habits</p>
<p>Gigavox Audio Lite<br />
relatively new<br />
give it a try<br />
prodcast production system<br />
webbased service<br />
not downloadable<br />
first of a series<br />
for video, all sorts of things<br />
opening up the itconversations platform<br />
avail for free to the individual<br />
save time in producing podcasts<br />
inc automated show assembly<br />
instert spots and promos<br />
podcasts with long shelf life<br />
  still popular<br />
  longevity<br />
  programs from gladwell &#8211; tipping point<br />
  those sponsors dont want the spots from 3 years ago in the new shows<br />
  in a prog thats heard today<br />
  rebuild every show in the archive every night<br />
 produce show in components<br />
audio or video components same from show to show<br />
decoupling production tasks<br />
editing audio &#8211; put credits in for website content<br />
hasnt been done yet</p>
<p>Unintended Consequences</p>
<p>SHow assembly optioins<br />
staic programs &#8211; burned in components<br />
On the fly assembly &#8211; (expensvie)<br />
Does On Demand (giga)<br />
push new version 1x a night when content has changed or if there is demand</p>
<p>15 components in their stuff</p>
<p>typical IT script</p>
<p>build shows based on components<br />
GVU uploader &#8211; client side app<br />
Episode editor<br />
most imp screen in the system<br />
components made to dev this app<br />
play components in real time<br />
campaign manager<br />
config campaigns</p>
<p>Infrastructure<br />
massively scalable<br />
poster child for amazon web services<br />
S3<br />
EC2<br />
SQS</p>
<p>$64 on infrastructure</p>
<p>encourage to go to gigavox.com &#8211; get levelator &#8211; sign up to be in the beta program for audio lite<br />
will like a lot</p>
<p>COnversations Network<br />
exec dir = Doug Kaye<br />
events all over the world b/c no one is recording them<br />
reach 6k people<br />
100/1 ratio for these conferences<br />
capture produce and dist spoken word content for free<br />
curated content<br />
have an arrangement for producer<br />
professional post production and publish it<br />
vision &#8211; grassroots version of this</p>
<p>what is a media rockstar<br />
content far from rockstar world<br />
record debates from 2008 elections<br />
not just presidential &#8211; local, school board, all that are going on<br />
tech conferences, lectures, meetings<br />
how to capture?<br />
Podcorps.org<br />
  monday announced<br />
  simple idea<br />
  volunteer team<br />
  2k people in 6 months<br />
  people with ability to go out and record audio and video in the community<br />
  decent job of capturing<br />
  post production then<br />
  audio video writers and producers<br />
  go to podcorps.org &#8211; where located and what skills are<br />
  working with eventful.com &#8211; captures events data<br />
  events that want to be recorded &#8211; tagged podcorps &#8211;<br />
  sys looks for events and matches to people who record</p>
<p>all volunteer<br />
give back to local community<br />
would like opp to do something good<br />
how can podcasting be something we give back<br />
go to podcorps .org<br />
no obligation<br />
eveent popup &#8211; email message to let us know<br />
challenges &#8211; audio feed from soundboard and stuff</p>
<p>very simple</p>
<p>Eventful.com, OurMedia.org, Internet Archive<br />
building database of stringers first<br />
will likely find none<br />
events find you</p>
<p>audio and video</p>
<p>events contact &#8211; work out the agreement</p>
<p>gigavox audio lite &#8211; just production &#8211; no serving &#8211; not solving distro problem</p>
<p>smart delivery &#8211; cool<br />
pub URL or a &#8220;c name&#8221;<br />
goes to their redirectors<br />
gathering stats at program level and individual component<br />
  sponsor wants 100k impressions<br />
  can give report on the number of times<br />
  things in archive 1yr old &#8211; why push to ftp<br />
  redirection to old show &#8211; havent put it on their server yet</p>
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		<title>Podcast Hotel &#8211; Building a fanbase &#8211; Liveblogging</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moderator &#8211; Nate PAgel &#8211; Poddaddies John Hartman &#8211; Feedia Chris Pirillo &#8211; Lockergnome Colin Brumelle &#8211; Mixed content &#8211; Bryght.com devs communities around musicians and artists Robert Scales &#8211; Rain City Studios &#8211; Drupal dev shop in Canada &#8211; creates communities &#8211; config, themeing, and web communities since 04 &#8211; askaninja, kidsworld, Ian Beatty [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderator &#8211; Nate PAgel &#8211; Poddaddies<br />
John Hartman &#8211; Feedia<br />
Chris Pirillo &#8211; Lockergnome<br />
Colin Brumelle &#8211; Mixed content &#8211; Bryght.com<br />
devs communities around musicians and artists<br />
Robert Scales &#8211; Rain City Studios &#8211; Drupal dev shop in Canada &#8211; creates communities &#8211; config, themeing, and web communities since 04 &#8211; askaninja, kidsworld,<br />
Ian Beatty &#8211; Project Opus</p>
<p>Intros</p>
<p>CB -<br />
what does bldg online communities meas?<br />
 couple of rules<br />
transparency is the new black<br />
more you let them see the more you let them see the content<br />
transparent<br />
can empathize<br />
build bigger relationships with your fans</p>
<p>NP &#8211; look at the rockstars &#8211; Ze Frank, RBoom &#8211; from the heart</p>
<p>BC &#8211; the best way to succeeed is to create compelling content constantly<br />
as a developer rolling out features is an example<br />
getting things out there<br />
in the past people used to say qual not quant<br />
Stalin &#8211; quant has a certain quant all its own</p>
<p>CP<br />
when you talk about community &#8211; you cant create it &#8211; it creates itself<br />
have tools to facilitate<br />
set up UStream<br />
set up chatrooms<br />
launched another chatroom on IRC<br />
95 people in that chat ready to ask questions and interact<br />
acapulco earthquake example<br />
community built the USTream page for pirillo &#8211; having fun, interacting<br />
updates on page and chatroom<br />
advertising<br />
easy way to switch feeds<br />
starting something and letting community take part is key<br />
not trying to broadcast out to the community &#8211; wants to interact with them<br />
doing things live and produced content is far more exciting way than podcasting or videocasting (without a live audience)</p>
<p>JH<br />
really focused on the business side<br />
help orgs figure the space out<br />
immediately the CEO &#8211; make me a video and put me on the web<br />
found the frameworks and structures arent quite there<br />
lot of COs out there seeing traction<br />
lot of companies not ready &#8211; dont have the framework in place<br />
manage and deal wiht all this content<br />
how to best provide these solutions &#8211; from CP to Intel<br />
put it together in packages</p>
<p>NP &#8211; who comes to you?<br />
JH &#8211; diff sizes<br />
project with Intel<br />
7 episodes in a pilot project<br />
black monday<br />
other clients &#8211; attensa, software companies, innovative and viral spaces<br />
large sports franchise<br />
large implmentations &#8211; enterprise solutions for hardware &#8211; social media and blogging tools</p>
<p>NP &#8211; CEO of poddaddies<br />
up there &#8211; first cust blipTV<br />
share revs with users<br />
get third of revs<br />
ind video pub and artist<br />
int in content creation and dist stuff and get it out there</p>
<p>NP &#8211; QUestion &#8211; MySPace and YouTube are options &#8211; what else can you do &#8211; best ways of dist? getting paid, access to people<br />
CP &#8211; twitter great for org flashmobs<br />
build followers<br />
using those tools for best adv &#8211; if paying attention &#8211; will be living in the now<br />
doing things diff &#8211; using it to see trends (RScoble)<br />
followers </p>
<p>CB &#8211; staying on top of where everyone is<br />
resisting using twitter &#8211; some people<br />
need to let go<br />
listen to community<br />
be part of it<br />
invest in it</p>
<p>RS<br />
every year &#8211; new social networking tool<br />
facebook exploding<br />
new trends &#8211; question of patience<br />
loving flickr<br />
go above to connect to upcoming.org<br />
use and build on each social networking apps<br />
crosslink on a dozen sites or communities &#8211; build googlejuice, ability to be found, pagerank<br />
be patient &#8211; utilize, build foundation, use OpenID, go seamless<br />
no standard for passwords</p>
<p>NP -<br />
patient and consistent lets you grow<br />
dont have to be on myspace and youtube exclusively<br />
read EndUserLicense agreements &#8211; its a contract<br />
control the rights<br />
know where your stuff is going<br />
applies to you<br />
keep ownership<br />
experiment<br />
not a bad idea &#8211; post something on youtube and elsewhere<br />
interesting place to test viability<br />
general thoughts of MySPace and YouTube</p>
<p>RS -<br />
lots of platforms<br />
adds timecodes (Viddler)<br />
put tags inline with content<br />
you have options and solutions<br />
you can always go somewhere else with better terms<br />
biggest, but not necessarily best<br />
million small nice communities<br />
going from biggest to best not always the best way to do it<br />
small gatherings and extend from there<br />
whatever you are interested in and passionate about</p>
<p>JH<br />
amazing things going on<br />
nonlinear int experience<br />
commenting video inside of vid<br />
not looking for straight line<br />
ways to interact<br />
things with ABC &#8211; a lot of their stuff online<br />
buying ads on terrestrial and online<br />
ads online are more web based, interactive<br />
changing the way we consume media</p>
<p>NP &#8211; how about making money?<br />
distribution, sure &#8211; but want to be a rockstar?\</p>
<p>JH &#8211; finding sponsors<br />
Podtech and Scoble example<br />
unil you have the audience &#8211; lot of ad svces workign in conjunction with vid and audio<br />
Ex &#8211; podcaster news<br />
5 min<br />
specific futuristic topic<br />
when the ad guys listened to the shows &#8211; audience share was small compared to the guys talking about lost<br />
craft and focus of what content is will affect monetization<br />
entertainment, music see better ad revs</p>
<p>RS &#8211; thats changed<br />
its a work of love<br />
do it b/c you want to do it in the first place<br />
aska ninja &#8211; they busted their behinds getting it out and growing community<br />
in june &#8211; new website &#8211; added features &#8211; added UGS options<br />
ad revenue minimal &#8211; hard to sustain hosting and design<br />
patience and plan of action to execute<br />
paying off now &#8211; took time and investment of effort to make rev to make it work well to continue<br />
when you enter in that sort of venture &#8211; be patient<br />
fans will want to work with you<br />
pay your dues<br />
ask a ninja &#8211; good example</p>
<p>NP &#8211; John Batelle &#8211; Fed Media<br />
doing a lot of things<br />
internet rockstar in 1.5 years possible &#8211; not so in music<br />
not a get rich quick scheme &#8211; takes time &#8211; be consistent, do show<br />
every day = every day or just do fridays</p>
<p>CP &#8211; Live has sucked ERice in again</p>
<p>Eric Rice &#8211; live youtube<br />
havent see what would happen with passion and pop of youtube and made it live and realtime<br />
all the fun and pain of youtube &#8211; make it live<br />
what killed podcasting for ER was doing a live show<br />
be on the move constantly<br />
spirit of podcasting died &#8211; seriously affected how we make media<br />
paradigm shift &#8211; rss on demand<br />
people did the opposite of our idealism is about (RSS adoption)<br />
exception to internet rockstardom<br />
go to a random mall in america &#8211; bring up Robert Scoble &#8211; no one knows or care<br />
indicative of the echo chamber<br />
YouTube &#8211; owns the content sucks &#8211; dont own you &#8211; work around it<br />
YT &#8211; oppressive terms of service could be a good thing<br />
the personality as the product or the commodity</p>
<p>NP &#8211; questions</p>
<p>Question &#8211; an overall def of what you consider and internet rockstar to be?<br />
NP &#8211; rockstar &#8211; successful doing what they are doing in the internet world in general &#8211; all about having dist, viewwers, community &#8211; doesnt necessarily mean celebrity<br />
SHow on bliptv &#8211; good night burbank &#8211; no one knows who they are &#8211; put it out there, and got what they wanted &#8211; about building a community first<br />
internet rockstar successful doing stuff oin the internet</p>
<p>WHats the measure of success?<br />
CP &#8211; largely depends<br />
hard to compare with someone else &#8211; no direct correlation<br />
level of celeb is never defined the same by individuals<br />
everyone has difff measurement</p>
<p>BC &#8211; nature of celeb is changing<br />
long tail flattens hit driven economy<br />
not created by machine, but from the ground up<br />
pay your dues and get noteriety</p>
<p>readers that are listening and communicating, back and forth and excchange = rockstar</p>
<p>maintaining a relationship more important</p>
<p>Internet ROckstar &#8211; deplorable &#8211; we are talking about community leaders<br />
community &#8211; saying &#8211; if comm is 5 people and they look to you as a leader &#8211; and they yelp a restaurant &#8211; you are a community leader</p>
<p>terminology changes &#8211; WTF outloud</p>
<p>toolss come in handy b/c you have influence<br />
more cool than saying you are an alpha geek</p>
<p>ben brown &#8211; internet rockstar</p>
<p>interesting communities &#8211; digg party, viable, make magazine &#8211; if they cant translate into real world, then a nebulous thing much like community manager is nebulous</p>
<p>questions in the balcony stage</p>
<p>comparing Ustream to Youtube &#8211; whats the core differentiator?</p>
<p>BC &#8211; the music world &#8211; live is best &#8211; engage the response from audience and shapes what you create<br />
no way a live stream wouldnt have more interactiving<br />
and you can edite taped later &#8211; live &#8211; screw up and move on</p>
<p>CP<br />
working on it &#8211; capturing the last 12 hrs they have got<br />
idea of capturing video, sponsor crawl and chat at the same time<br />
done it and putting a finer point on it<br />
wrapping drupal &#8211; to put a community on it</p>
<p>soon &#8211; battle of others<br />
competitors<br />
UStream allows you to embed it on your page<br />
YT has reach and community<br />
using youtube to drive to live stream</p>
<p>money thing &#8211; no one talking in depth<br />
put forth an idea &#8211; isnt it for the short term simple &#8211; whether site of needlepoint or edutainment &#8211; about brand integrated entertainment as alt advertiser</p>
<p>integration opps come up and patron subsidizes the work &#8211; immediate way to monetize<br />
rev gen to cover expenses and lifestyle &#8211; need community and clickthrus &#8211; need traffic &#8211; that is the labor of love</p>
<p>community on day one &#8211; CP did it<br />
CP &#8211; would approach sponsor and translate the passion<br />
show the love &#8211; create a relationship<br />
passion can makes things happen<br />
if you can find smart partners to complete the other side of the puzzle you will make success<br />
leverage the assets you have<br />
wheres the rest of it &#8211; where are you going, showing , does it fit into a master plan &#8211; leverage the things you have</p>
<p>get substantial arrangement</p>
<p>a lot on faith &#8211; faith in chris, the product &#8211; passion</p>
<p>NP &#8211; you need to focus on show and community &#8211; be consistent first and worry about the money later</p>
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<p>How to look into the future<br />
how to look for certain indicators to help you determine path</p>
<p>interesting &#8211; tech based medium right now<br />
alot of us have tech angle &#8211; not just the content<br />
from tech standpoint we can progress and see whats coming</p>
<p>Broad ideas, and specific ideas</p>
<p>get some nuggets out of this</p>
<p>related to space and time &#8211; his philosophy</p>
<p>Intro of rocketboom</p>
<p>&#8220;WHat happens when you can dist video to anyone?&#8221;</p>
<p>dist &#8211;<br />
on website, off website</p>
<p>Proximity &#8211; all about being near or far<br />
before tech it was all about dist of moving (info, you) from one point or another<br />
would take long time for info to move (physicall)<br />
then we write &#8211; books, info<br />
democratization of media beginning with guttenburg press<br />
telescope &#8211; imp point &#8211; once you can bring things close, ideas change<br />
exchange of info is important<br />
gives us a major advantage<br />
growth of electricity &#8211; tesla<br />
getting info out thru tv, radio<br />
revolution in terms of getting info faster<br />
source of content and entertaining, useful</p>
<p>Now &#8211; Digital</p>
<p>incredible and daunting to get info so quickly<br />
Media &#8211; big 4 (big 3 + PBS)<br />
had control over all of the messages</p>
<p>as a kid could make his own videos, but couldnt really distribute it</p>
<p>cable &#8211; boom in offering of content and information<br />
still trad media &#8211; just keeps growing with the brands and media</p>
<p>now we can compete<br />
web2.0 in Asia &#8211; a lot going there &#8211; so much out there it is taken for granted</p>
<p>where are we now?<br />
read-write web<br />
used to be a static web page<br />
company info old days &#8211; static, never changing<br />
blogging &#8211; imp to be dynamic info</p>
<p>moving away from pageviews &#8211; AJAX, engagement, lack of refresh</p>
<p>Media Democracy<br />
old days &#8211; needed someone to pull you up to make it to the summit (get broadcasted) (see photo)</p>
<p>now &#8211; your moms blog</p>
<p>popularity &#8211; how much content<br />
a lot of content not popular, going on and on<br />
one show the most popular show based on numbers (zero sum)<br />
only few #1s</p>
<p>used to be &#8211; your mom had compelling content, wanted it on tv, up the ladder<br />
now sys allows your mom to get up there without the big media cos<br />
something there that all agree is the most popular at that moment</p>
<p>big popularity is false pop &#8211; based on decisions of initial filtering of small group vs what is actually popular</p>
<p>all kinds of controls and things to make it unpure</p>
<p>top-down hierarchy &#8211; old school<br />
now &#8211; dist community &#8211; in place now &#8211; connections between each other allow for content to rise up</p>
<p>technorati graph based on most popular conversations<br />
wouldnt have happened without our dist network<br />
wouldnt have gotten the reach on their own</p>
<p>long ways to go in terms of the growth<br />
pie chart &#8211; red &#8211; how many posting on blogs<br />
bloggers outspoken, have a lot of time in the centers of conversations</p>
<p>Illiad example of extracting information<br />
book<br />
blog<br />
twitter<br />
cron</p>
<p>live video<br />
info spreads much quicker</p>
<p>overview of diff industry specific activities in podcasting right now and perspective<br />
Burgeoning networks<br />
yatta at rocketboom quotes &#8211; apr 2 2007<br />
not the kind of networking and sharing of data &#8211; the networks we have now have not been operating on that model and we may have a prob<br />
business model is a problem<br />
point of business is to maximize money<br />
record labels example &#8211; commercial maximixing, not the art<br />
huge bands that make the labels lots of money<br />
big band carry weight</p>
<p>(streaming the feed now)</p>
<p>decisions imp for progressing get stuck<br />
most of the businesses of networks have venture capital plan<br />
get investment, get roadmap, maximize cash for sale<br />
if we dont have an exit strategy, &#8211; networks seem to be out to max the amount of cash they can earn<br />
a lot of experimentation<br />
concerning to him b/c the artists on the networks for the most part are disenchanted<br />
hearing the same stereotypical sentiment he is hearing from bands</p>
<p>need more innovation so that these co&#8217;s dont get stuck in the same bad model</p>
<p>Advertising &#8211; by 2011 &#8211; should drastically increase ad spend on podcasting<br />
no one has come up with good proposal for podcasters to make more money beyond advertising<br />
chance to make the most with ads<br />
most $$$ per individiual viewer<br />
future &#8211; looking into seeing what the big entities are leveraging (google, DC, yahoo)<br />
thru youtube and google, use the systems in place to do rev shares<br />
trad media still looking at licensing deals<br />
leave it up to the licensing people</p>
<p>where is this going &#8211; cant help but bring up Dave WIner &#8211;<br />
foresight into the ad industry<br />
feels he has too much of an extremist view on where it will go<br />
AB &#8211; agrees wiht the sentiment &#8211; advertising is less and less effective &#8211; hard to fool people if you dont have the better product<br />
can rise naturally without lobbying, other forces that bring it up</p>
<p>ANTI ADVERTISING &#8211; leveraging the audience you have to get feedback on the prod and svcs to get better and grow<br />
feels good in terms of society and being bombarded with advertising</p>
<p>Chevy Tahoe example</p>
<p>Citizen tube<br />
John Edwards</p>
<p>2x as many people getting their info this way<br />
2x the amount of participation<br />
what won the election last time was the TV commercial</p>
<p>this time &#8211; how much of a diff will it make<br />
people who are flex, could be swayed &#8211; not the increase and coming on line will not be as great as hoped<br />
coming to terms with idea &#8211; 2 yrs from now, how much things can progress</p>
<p>thinks TV will win next election</p>
<p>International influence<br />
can vote and influence<br />
now you have the intl world ready to participate</p>
<p>if the intl people cant participate &#8211; problematic</p>
<p>CES and tech industry<br />
roadmap for the next year<br />
all heard the apple tv coming, iphone coming, wimax and fiber</p>
<p>Podcaster standpoint &#8211; appletv expands distro<br />
go HD<br />
taking action based on future tech &#8211; and leveraging it<br />
as soon as it rolls out &#8211; podcasters talking about 3G files and what it takes</p>
<p>predicting and getting out there</p>
<p>Verizon FIOS &#8211; in cities and state<br />
increase in bandwidth &#8211; lots of change &#8211; in consumption, participation</p>
<p>enough people had broadband to be able to get at audio and video content</p>
<p>know the inc in WIMAX will expedite bringing people on in other countries<br />
increase audiences</p>
<p>WHere is video going ?</p>
<p>video tracking &#8211; going to be huge<br />
where you take a look at the pict and ID where people would look<br />
distinguish between colors and stuff<br />
interpreting whats in the video<br />
search and do things physically<br />
outputs determined by what we see and do</p>
<p>speech to text (podzinger)<br />
scan the video for the audio &#8211; convert to speech and text<br />
70-80% success rate</p>
<p>growing fast<br />
Paul Verillia &#8211; philosopher</p>
<p>how it works together</p>
<p>end of time now<br />
end of time it takes to get info to you<br />
barriers falling, gaps shrinking<br />
not even a concern &#8211; happening so fast<br />
there is no time between us<br />
finding the time is the key</p>
<p>if you are fighting a war &#8211; the side wiht the info first has the advantage<br />
upper hand<br />
stocks the same thing<br />
creates power of influence</p>
<p>fractals from chaos math</p>
<p>fern photo<br />
keep zooming in &#8211; has same structure and patterns<br />
people in terms of time conversation &#8211; get the most abstract</p>
<p>how these philosophies fit together</p>
<p>chaos theory &#8211; as you zoom in and find inf0 &#8211; its like it is already there<br />
just you accessing it &#8211; already there<br />
what we see is diff than what we see &#8211; not the actual &#8211; still there, not there to us<br />
if already there &#8211; moving thru it &#8211; always used in back of head to give the confidence that looking into the future is an adequate way to do it</p>
<p>understanding all this stuff &#8211; just do it and participate</p>
<p>ends on more abstract note</p>
<p>moment of democratization of media &#8211; sys in place, participate in it &#8211; und where it is going and where it is going in a way that makes you happy but worthwhile</p>
<p>you need to go out and participate</p>
<p>DotSUb  &#8211; translation and internationalization of content<br />
people translate it<br />
upload the video<br />
like youtube &#8211; and embed the videos</p>
<p>distro on apple tv<br />
access to that</p>
<p>coming to these events you end up plugging yourself in<br />
hey &#8211; we want rb here or there </p>
<p>most colleagues &#8211; go out and call themselves<br />
bloggers have the megaphones</p>
<p>basically plug in the authorities &#8211; and the conversation makers<br />
get resources that way</p>
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